Saturday, September 16, 2006

Which Eternity Do You Believe In?

As I was waiting for the bus today a thought occurred to me. No matter what your beliefs, you are believing in some kind of eternity. Logically eternity must either be eternal nothingness, an eternity of causes and events, or an eternal god.

If you believe the Universe had a beginning then what happened before that beginning? Was it God, a series of events or was it nothing? If you believe that nothing existed before the universe began, then what caused it to begin? Was there a big explosion? Then what exploded and what caused the explosion? And if the cause and the object that exploded existed before the explosion, then there wouldn't have been nothing. So when did they exist and where did they come from? Nothingness doesn't have an intelligence or actions to cause it, so nothingness couldn't have been what preceeded the Universe.

So do you believe that eternity is a series of events? Then what are those events? How do things change? What caused those events? What caused the changes? Since events also don't have intelligence and cannot be self-starting, they couldn't cause their own Universe without some outside effect acting on them and they themselves couldn't have come to be without more than one effect. Also, most people who don't believe in God don't think they believe in eternity. So we are back to eternal nothingness before these series of events started.

So the only eternity which makes sense to me is an eternal God. God DOES have intelligence and CAN self-start. He CAN cause things to happen by Himself. He CAN design things. He CAN use intelligence to make things happen. To me, that is the only logical eternity. Think it through to the end!

2 Comments:

At 3:11 PM, Blogger Job said...

Amen and amen.

 
At 10:42 AM, Blogger PhoenixByrd said...

That is the most F-ed up BS cop-out I've ever seen in my life.

For starters, not one living person today can say with ANY certainty what has existed prior to our observable universe.

I can't tell you that no god exists, and I can't tell you that a god definitely exists. What I can tell you is that all religions here on our little speck of dirt in the vast cosmos are man made. Written by primitive superstitious men who did not have the technological means to discover other answers to the questions they had.

Anywho, on to eternity! For starter's, eternity is a measure of time. Not a measure of intelligent design. In other words, god need not apply to matter's of eternity. Now since eternity is a measurement of time, what then is time? Time is illusory, not real. Time is a measurement of distance traveled and arbitrary number assignment, or sequential events and arbitrary number assignment. There is no set "universal time". There just is no such thing as "time". A concept that not many people understand or are willing to accept due to ignorance and lack of proper education.

Alot of what we take for granted, time, free will, etc. are illusory. They exist on paper and as intellectual concepts, that's all.

Just because our universe exists is not indicative of it NEEDING to have had an intelligent creator. There's nothing conclusive to even show that our universe or any universe requires some form of intelligence to create it! Everything about our universe is fully understandable now, or mostly so. It's simple physics, quantum physics, and chemistry. Nothing overly to difficult to get a basic understanding of. IF you took the time to bother with it.

 

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